Topic: Which Bit Rate?

[GingerRobot]

Exactly. Meaning that you're not getting unlimited bandwidth for the money that you're currently paying.

I never said I was getting unlimited for what I am paying... You guy are. I just said I have unlimited.

NO MORE ABOUT UNLIMITED THAT ISN'T WHAT THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT!

So does that mean you're saying you have unlimited bandwidth assuming you have unlimited money? Riiiiight.

Anyway, don't you think you're thinking about this the wrong way? You should be considering the user's internet speeds and think what they will be capable of streaming and/or downloading in a reason time.

[waynewex]

The poor user always get forgotten.

[Kris]

I'd offer a low bandwidth version, and a high bandwidth version. Let the user pick what they want to view.

[The Little Guy]

Anyway, don't you think you're thinking about this the wrong way? You should be considering the user's internet speeds and think what they will be capable of streaming and/or downloading in a reason time.

I did ask that on the previous page.

I'd offer a low bandwidth version, and a high bandwidth version. Let the user pick what they want to view.

I was possibly thinking that (which I may do).

Another question (may or may not know) when you upload a video to youtube, do they keep the original file, or do they discard it after it uploads and converts to a flv?

[Daniel0]

It would seem like they are storing the files as they were uploaded. Otherwise they couldn't suddenly supply high quality and later HD versions of previously uploaded videos.

[The Little Guy]

that is what I thought, because I was wondering how they were able to convert videos to HD, but is it possible that only the new videos have an high quality version?

[Daniel0]

that is what I thought, because I was wondering how they were able to convert videos to HD, but is it possible that only the new videos have an high quality version?

No, as I said, when they rolled it out, some new videos had it as well, so I'm quite sure that's not the case.


On the DreamHost thing, I figured I might share the link to a blog post I made about it: http://degeberg.com/2008/12/dreamhost-to-infinity-and-beyond/

[GingerRobot]

Excellent. I'm surprised you got a reply at all. It should be noted that dreamhost aren't alone in their unlimited offerings. While I cannot think of any off of the top of my head, I saw a lot of similar plans a couple years back.

(Edit: For example, see this host)

There used to be a fair few ISPs in the UK offering unlimited bandwidth. I'm guessing the office of fair trading got onto them about that, as I've not seen any recently.

Edit 2: Seems i lied. BT are still offering this.

[Daniel0]

It should be noted that dreamhost aren't alone in their unlimited offerings. While I cannot think of any off of the top of my head, I saw a lot of similar plans a couple years back.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but alas I do not have enough times to write ∞ emails.

[Mchl]

Another one's powweb
I'm actually using their services, but that's mostly because they were able to give me better conditions than the previous host. I don't need ∞ GB of whatever, but I do need control panel that works and gives me the controls I want. Having python was a pleasant surprise, not having InnoDB was the unpleasant one. Can't have ∞.

[The Little Guy]

Daniel0, I liked your first email, it made me giggle.

Some more Unlimited:
http://www.bluehost.com/
http://www.hostmonster.com/
9 More: http://www.webhostingchoice.com/

my current stats for this month (starts on the 8th):
File Storage: 82.6 GB
Bandwidth: 153.888 GB

[corbin]

I agree that overselling is bad, and companies should just straight up say, "Your max is x," but man, it's much worse to be stuck in a host that tells you you have 50MB disk space than psuedo-infinity (that's a fun term...).

My dad knew someone through something or other who does webdesign/hosting, and I'm terrible at design, so we decided to hire him to design/host the site.  His design fee was reasonable (on the edge of over priced in my opinion, since it looks a little dated.  Not like 90s dated.  Just 2-3 years dated), but man does his hosting plan suck.  Suck is actually too good of word for that.

The features, as follow:

-25MB Storage Space
-1 POP3 E-mail Box
-E-mail Forwarding Addresses
-Online Account Management
-24/7 FTP Site Access
-E-mail Support

All for the low price of...

$20/month.  Seriously.  (We actually ended up with 50MB for $23ish/month, I think because when I talked to him on the phone, I was looking in cpanel, and was like "25 megabytes?" in a really weird tone. lol.)


I'll take over sellers over 25MB anyday.


But, if I genuinely wanted unlimited, I would be quite disappointed when my account was suspended for violating the host's ToS.


"I'll give you x, but you can only use y at a time.  Deal?"

[nrg_alpha]

On the DreamHost thing, I figured I might share the link to a blog post I made about it: http://degeberg.com/2008/12/dreamhost-to-infinity-and-beyond/

lol... nice blog post Dan.. you can be quite the sh!t disturber, but it is interesting to pin a company up against the proverbial wall with these sort of things. Funny you mentioned youtube hosting.. I started to google this subject (regarding unlimited hosting and fine print) and stumbled upon this post regarding bluehost and the fact that a site hosting over 50GB of media files got shut down..

Indeed, unlimited is an illusion...
P.S If you ever do happen to stumble upon one of those infinite hard drives, do let me know

[The Little Guy]

Infinite files:

<?php
while(TRUE){
     $handle = fopen('file.txt','w');
     fwrite($handle, 'hello');
     fclose($handle);
     unlink('file.txt');
}
?>

Is this hard drive big enough for you?
http://cache.gizmodo.com/archives/images/new_hard_drive.jpg

[Kris]

Infinite files:

<?php
while(TRUE){
     $handle = fopen('file.txt','w');
     fwrite($handle, 'hello');
     fclose($handle);
     unlink('file.txt');
}
?>

Doesn't that continually create and remove the same file?