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"No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« on: May 22, 2010, 01:21:06 PM »
Folks,

I ran my site through a HTML validator, it says No DOCTYPE Found, but in my Index.php i have:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> 

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">


See what w3 Validator has to say:

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http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fterrygoodkind.co.uk%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.767
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Warning No DOCTYPE  found, and unknown root element. Aborting validation.
Unable to Determine Parse Mode!

Am not able to understand, what wrong am doing in DOCTYPE.

Thanks all
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 01:26:47 PM »
It might be because you're both declaring an XML namespace and setting the DOCTYPE to an HTML one and that's what's confusing it.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 01:31:39 PM »
According to the source that the validator used, your doctype tag is on line 7 in your file and you have another HTML tag before it in the file as well.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 01:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Daniel0 on May 22, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
It might be because you're both declaring an XML namespace and setting the DOCTYPE to an HTML one and that's what's confusing it.

I tried to remove one, and still the same validation result.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 01:49:13 PM »
Quote from: PFMaBiSmAd on May 22, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
According to the source that the validator used, your doctype tag is on line 7 in your file and you have another HTML tag before it in the file as well.

I can not see any HTML tag before DOCTYPE declaration.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2010, 02:10:22 PM »
Quote from: anks on May 22, 2010, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: PFMaBiSmAd on May 22, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
According to the source that the validator used, your doctype tag is on line 7 in your file and you have another HTML tag before it in the file as well.

I can not see any HTML tag before DOCTYPE declaration.

Then you need to look closer.

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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 02:11:26 PM »
You are using the incorrect DTD. You are using the HTML 4.01 DTD and defining an XML namespace which is only implemented as of XHTML 1.0. Remove the xmlns.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 02:27:16 PM »
Quote from: ignace on May 22, 2010, 02:11:26 PM
You are using the incorrect DTD. You are using the HTML 4.01 DTD and defining an XML namespace which is only implemented as of XHTML 1.0. Remove the xmlns.

My existing code is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> 

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

You mean to say, i need to completely remove the Second declaration and keep only the <html>. Right?
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2010, 03:02:51 PM »
Yes. Or change your doctype to XHTML
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 12:48:03 AM »
Quote from: Daniel0 on May 22, 2010, 02:10:22 PM
Quote from: anks on May 22, 2010, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: PFMaBiSmAd on May 22, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
According to the source that the validator used, your doctype tag is on line 7 in your file and you have another HTML tag before it in the file as well.

I can not see any HTML tag before DOCTYPE declaration.

Then you need to look closer.


Oh Yes....  :-\

After scretching head for past 4-5 hours, am still not able to understand how is this heppening?

The code that is being used for this is:

echo '<ul id="departments">';
foreach($keyword_list as $keywordname) 
{
$keywordname_url = stripslashes(str_replace('+', '-', urlencode($keywordname)));
$navigation.= "<li><a href='".($keywordname_url).".htm'>".Ucwords($keywordname)."</a></li>";
}
echo '</ul>';

}

This code is in Function.php file and this file is being called in index.php right at the top, even before <html> tag.

<?php
// Change error reporting to minimum
error_reporting(E_ALL ^ E_NOTICE);

include("config.php");
include('functions.php');
?>

Will this help to locate the problem bit?
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 03:04:20 AM »
you have <ul id="departments"></ul> before your doctype
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 05:05:05 AM »
Quote from: Tazerenix on May 23, 2010, 03:04:20 AM
you have <ul id="departments"></ul> before your doctype

Yes, thats y i shared the info in my last post, see if you could locate, what am mi doing wrong?
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2010, 06:04:37 AM »
Quote from: Tazerenix on May 23, 2010, 03:04:20 AM
you have <ul id="departments"></ul> before your doctype

Oh really? Who would have known that?!

Maybe you should read the topic before you reply so you don't repeat other people. PFMaBiSmAd said that in the second reply to this topic.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2010, 06:29:04 AM »
anks, you are directly echoing two lines of HTML instead of concatenating them with the $navigation variable.

Also, based on the number of blank lines, you are apparently echoing other things or have something not enclosed within <?php ?> tags before the doctype tag.
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Re: "No DOCTYPE Found" How come?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2010, 07:34:31 AM »
Quote from: PFMaBiSmAd on May 23, 2010, 06:29:04 AM
anks, you are directly echoing two lines of HTML instead of concatenating them with the $navigation variable.

Also, based on the number of blank lines, you are apparently echoing other things or have something not enclosed within <?php ?> tags before the doctype tag.

Hello,

Ok, i have removed both echo statments and concatenated with the $navigation. like:

$navigation.= "<li class='departments'><a href='".($keywordname_url).".htm'>".Ucwords($keywordname)."</a></li>";

Its showing no error but the Department class is not getting applied.  :-\

But if i echo, as i did earlier, this class gets applied.
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