Koobithe karma feature is open to faults as well. if you have a lot of friends on this board, they might give you karma just because they're you're friends.
But in reality there are only a few people here who are regulars. By far the majority of users are random people who come in looking for help, and then leave. In reality, the regulars are people who want to help other people. If they are in that mindset already, then it is very unlikely they will go superficially raising other people's karma. In theory, I'd agree with you. But in reality, this is not a chat forum. It is a support forum, so that danger would be virtually non-existent.
and people would ask questions because they don't know the answers. so how is it right to say that they can judge an answer is correct just because it works in their particular case when they didn't know the answer to begin with?
I'm not sure I understand you here. You seem to be answering your own question. It's the right answer, because it works. Are there better answers? Maybe, maybe not. But given the many scenarios out there, from php/sql versions, platforms they are run on, features enabled/disabled, structure of the rest of their script, etc.. etc.. too many to even name, the bottom line is that the only person really qualified to judge whether it worked or not was the person who asked the question in the first place.
bilis_moneyi think too much rules will discourage the not so smart member and the noobs.
I agree with this statement in general, but how does this apply to the karma system? The karma system is not a rule to follow. It is simply a means to show appreciation to people who have been helpful to you.
some members can't help right away maybe because his new to the forum,
or he didn't know the answer or maybe he has a personal reason maybe
he is too busy or currently working on a project.
I will agree that it is possible that many people out there would stay and be regulars and help other people if they had the time. But taking away a 'reward' system for those who do stay, simply because of this logic, seems more like punishment to the people who do stay and help. In the (US) army, you can earn a purple heart (a medal) for going above and beyond your duties and helping other people. Look at the Movie Forrest Gump. He earned a purple heart for saving everybody in his platoon. Now, any other person in his platoon could argue that they would have done the same thing if they had the chance. And they probably would have. But that's not a reason to not award Forrest the purple heart for doing it. The purple heart is given to someone to show what that person
did do, not what other people
didn't do. The same principle works for the karma system here.
If I were some random person looking for help, and I come to these boards, ask my question, and someone helps me out, especially if it's a particularly difficult problem to solve, and that person has shown me a whole lot of patience because I'm such a noob, I would most definately want to click the good karma button on him. He earned it. He probably deserves more than that. But at least it's something. Now, maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't think to myself that I'd like to be able to help out too, if I were better, or if I had more time, but I would certainly not somehow be offended by this person's karma points, compared to mine.
and besides we have the report button already.
this way we can report who's making stupid things on this community.
I agree. However, if I were a mod, I would not want to be flooded with reports about people giving bad advice, or people asking questions and being ungrateful or not paying attention to advice offered, etc... Do you report to the mods when this stuff happens, or do you simply ignore them, or point it out yourself? What do you really think would happen if you reported something like that to a mod? They'd most likely agree with you that it is annoying, but in the nicest way possible they'd tell you to stop bothering them with petty things. This is where the 'smite' side of the karma system comes in handy. It is a non-partial 3rd party public tracking system for people who are like that.
and i know that the more they PM here the more they will get in touch with
the community the more communication exchange the more changes
he will share his idea to us...
Did you mean Post, instead of PM? I'd agree with you if you meant posting, but PMing here is bad. It's even in the rules: "Do not PM people asking for help. It goes against the whole purpose of the community." well that's paraphrased, but you get the point. If not, then the point is, if you PM someone and ask them for help, first of all, you are cheating yourself. How? Because you are sending out your question on the hopes that one single person will know the answer. If you have a question, which do you think will more likely yield an answer faster (if at all): asking one person, or asking many people? The answer is obvious.
2nd, you are cheating other people. By asking your question in the public for all to read, you are giving many people the opportunity to learn something, as well. You are not the only person who has come across your question, I promise.
just like me i would also like to share my knowledge but
currently my php knowledge is limited maybe in some aspect of the php.
and besides i'm still currently learning php.
Good. I am happy for you, really. We need more people who are willing to help around here. But do you think that gives you the right to deny Forrest Gump his purple heart? To me, this sounds more like you are wanting to deny someone the fruits of their labor, out of envy and jealousy. I'm just being honest.
so you can't really force somebody to help beforehand.
it's up to him if he is in the mood or not.
but he will realize somehow if he would like to share his idea.
perhaps a good reconcilation on this community will push the other
member to share their idea to...
Nobody is forcing anybody to help. You seem to now be arguing that Forrest Gump should be denied his purple heart, simply because the other people in his platoon are not required to save their comrads. You seem to be arguing this: "I don't have to help out. It is my choice. Therefore, you shouldn't be rewarded for helping out - because it's not a requirement." Does that not sound silly to you? Especially when you consider that this reward is not being given out by phpfreaks.com, the mods (as reps of phpfreaks.com, that is), or anything of the sort. It is being given to you by people just like you, who were looking for help, and got it.
well i guess this is just my opinion it's up to Exalted 'Eric Rose Brock' and
to the admins.
See that's the mentality that is not very community-like. Why do you think Eric is so Exalted? Do you hold some kind of contempt for him, simply because he spent his time and effort to create this site? Again, this reeks of envy and jealousy, rather than a genuine concern for an "even level community."
I believe the karma system might encourage people to help out more. I will agree that it is a status thing. I agree with that 100%. But I look at it as a badge of honor, like a purple heart, to be earned, not something like post counts or "sr. member" titles that mean nothing. It is a tool based on people coming for help, and getting it, and showing their appreciation.
You can argue that it is just an "egobooster" to inflate people's egos, but that is simply not true. The only reason you would have the karma is if you helped. You aren't giving yourself karma. Other people are giving it to you, because you helped them. Fears of artificially increasing karma is simply not true. If anything, I take that as a slap in the face. I spend a lot of my time helping out people here, and you come along and say I'm doing it just to strut my stuff? Again, I smell envy. Especially when I readily admit that I am nowhere near the best around here, and I always give out props to people.
