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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2006, 11:56:34 PM »
Ok, I would like to jump in right here.

This is a little offtopic but, I'm going to be completely honost here:

I've always seen most people on PhpFreaks as rude, because when I was learning I would search around, not find my question, so I would ask. I seemed to get responses like "Oh someone already asked that, look around," but I did...

I work with customer support on another site, the one thing I make sure to do is address each problem, and read the post completely. If I know I don't have time to read it all, I'll wait until I do.
Saying stuff like
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unfortunately i didn't have time to read your entire post so i'll just reply to what you quoted me on.
just gives the impression to me like you don't have time for this site. Yes, we all have outside lifes... well, for the most part, but you don't ever tell the customer that.


Anyways,

I think something like the Karma mod for SMF would be nice, maybe just the user that put up the topic could say "Was this user helpful in this topic? Yes/No/Undecided." It serioulsy can't be that hard to make your own mods for this site, I mean come on its phpFreaks!!!

Basically, something like the karma mod would be nice imo :)

customer support is your job where you're paid to do respond to each customers query and it's your duty.
if you could ask your boss to pay me to read each and every post here i'd be glad to :)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 12:08:39 AM »
I hate to break it to you, but I don't get paid either ;)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2006, 12:12:01 AM »
wait so koobi are you saying that you, as a mod, shouldn't have to read posts before responding to them, because you aren't paid? that doesn't sound like proper mod attitude...

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i'm not trying to start some kind of fight here..that's just the impression i just got. please clarify if that's not what you meant?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2006, 12:15:24 AM by Crayon Violent »

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2006, 12:30:41 AM »
wait so koobi are you saying that you, as a mod, shouldn't have to read posts before responding to them, because you aren't paid? that doesn't sound like proper mod attitude...

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i'm not trying to start some kind of fight here..that's just the impression i just got. please clarify if that's not what you meant?

nobody reads every post on every thread. i have no time these days. i read the part of the discussion you quoted me on. if you want me to read a part of your post which you quoted someone else on, then you should say so. why would i want to read the part of the post you quoted someone else on? my discussion is with you, not with the other person you qouted the post on.

if it's a critical thread of course i'd read the entire thread but this is just a discussion about karma...which i think has gone a little too far...

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2006, 12:47:02 AM »
wait so koobi are you saying that you, as a mod, shouldn't have to read posts before responding to them, because you aren't paid? that doesn't sound like proper mod attitude...

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i'm not trying to start some kind of fight here..that's just the impression i just got. please clarify if that's not what you meant?

nobody reads every post on every thread. i have no time these days. i read the part of the discussion you quoted me on. if you want me to read a part of your post which you quoted someone else on, then you should say so. why would i want to read the part of the post you quoted someone else on? my discussion is with you, not with the other person you qouted the post on.

if it's a critical thread of course i'd read the entire thread but this is just a discussion about karma...which i think has gone a little too far...

Like I said in the beginning, I feel like most people are here are rude.

I'm sorry, but I really don't want to come back here because of your attitude. You might not take me seriously because I don't have posts on this forum, but dont mistake me for not being mature or responsible. I've had plenty of times working under pressure, with no time, limited supplies and I can pull out just fine. Do I tell the people that are looking up to me that I don't have time for them? No, I don't, I at least TRY to make time.

I don't know if I'm going to come back here ever again, because it seems like some of the staff are complete donkeys (if you know what I mean.)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2006, 12:56:24 AM »
Like I said in the beginning, I feel like most people are here are rude.

I'm sorry, but I really don't want to come back here because of your attitude. You might not take me seriously because I don't have posts on this forum, but dont mistake me for not being mature or responsible. I've had plenty of times working under pressure, with no time, limited supplies and I can pull out just fine. Do I tell the people that are looking up to me that I don't have time for them? No, I don't, I at least TRY to make time.

I don't know if I'm going to come back here ever again, because it seems like some of the staff are complete donkeys (if you know what I mean.)

i'm sorry that you feel that way but that's your opinion.

i feel that you are being rude by assuming that i'm not taking you seriously because of your post count. i don't even look at a persons post count and as far as i'm concerned, your post is judging me without even knowing me.
look at my post count and compare it to the post count of the other mods? see the difference? now why would i judge a person by their post count?

and don't talk about time. you have no idea what hours i have to put it and i wont talk to you about time because i have no idea what your lifestyle is like. people have commitments apart from work and a social life. some people have other commitments that require constant attention. it may be a personal matter.

and i'd rather spend more of my time helping on the forum than reading a thread in the miscellaneous section of the forum that was just a discussion to begin with...which may have been another reason why i chose not to read this entire thread...but since you're in the mood to judge a person without knowing the facts, i don't expect you to realize that :)

by the way, i happen to think donkeys are very fine animals :)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2006, 01:05:30 AM »
So I might have been a little rude too, sorry.

Oh, and if you didnt notice, Karma is back ;)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2006, 01:09:17 AM »
So I might have been a little rude too, sorry.

Oh, and if you didnt notice, Karma is back ;)

yep :) it's back
but like i said, it's the admins decision. i was just stating my opinion in this thread and somehow it got taken way out of proportion.

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2006, 01:19:56 AM »
wait so koobi are you saying that you, as a mod, shouldn't have to read posts before responding to them, because you aren't paid? that doesn't sound like proper mod attitude...

edit:

i'm not trying to start some kind of fight here..that's just the impression i just got. please clarify if that's not what you meant?

nobody reads every post on every thread. i have no time these days. i read the part of the discussion you quoted me on. if you want me to read a part of your post which you quoted someone else on, then you should say so. why would i want to read the part of the post you quoted someone else on? my discussion is with you, not with the other person you qouted the post on.

if it's a critical thread of course i'd read the entire thread but this is just a discussion about karma...which i think has gone a little too far...
well i just thought that

a) since you decided to take part in this discussion and put your 2 cents in, that you would at least listen to the other side of the argument. How are you going to learn anything new, or else reaffirm your own opinions, if you shut your ears and eyes and start talking? I understand your lack of time.  The decent thing to have done was not to respond at all, if you weren't going to put both feet in the water. 

b) I understand that it is not possible for a single mod to read every post on every thread.  Or even an army of mods.  But one of the functions of a mod is to make sure people are posting within guidelines.  I would at the very least assume that for the threads/posts that you do have the time to read, that you would excercise your duties as a mod to well..moderate.  Or am I mistaken in what the duties of a mod are, around here? I suppose the duties vary from board to board.  Please do not hesitate to correct me if I am wrong. 

I agree nobody does read every post in every thread in every forum on this board.  Not even me.  But I do take the time to read the posts in the threads that I do go to.  It just seems like common courtesy.  It helps to avoid situations like people posting the same things twice, or saying things that have nothing to do with the conversation.  It's the same basic flaw of evesdropping on a conversation:you're bound to interpret something wrong cuz you didn't hear the whole thing.  It's the same basic flaw of putting your hands over your ears and closing your eyes and trying to talk to someone.  It's really hard.  My son tries stuff like that sometimes. It's actually kind of funny. 

And as far as this discussion being taken out of proportion: I have to disagree.  I will agree that this thread has strayed from the OT and maybe everybody started to get their feathers ruffled, but I do not believe the original debate itself got out of proportion.

peace.

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2006, 01:25:14 AM »
a) look at your reply to my post. you quoted me on my post. i read that part of your post since that is what is relevant to me. why would i want to read your reply to the other guys post when it does not concern me?

b) when i say i didn't read the entire post i didn't mean i didn't even glance over it to make sure things are ok, i just did not process it. don't take things so literally.


it's not a matter of posting the same thing twice in this situation because you posted quoting me so i have to reply to your question with my own opinion even if someone shares my opinion because i would have to state my opinion.


so since we seem to have the main topic sorted out, let's give this thread a break :)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2006, 01:31:19 AM »
a) I..bah, i'll just skip to this part here:
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so since we seem to have the main topic sorted out, let's give this thread a break Smiley
Since I will agree that this is overall the best course of action, in recognition of your sage-like advice, I award you one karma point  ;)



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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2006, 01:35:06 AM »
a) I..bah, i'll just skip to this part here:
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so since we seem to have the main topic sorted out, let's give this thread a break Smiley
Since I will agree that this is overall the best course of action, in recognition of your sage-like advice, I award you one karma point  ;)




well hey since the karma system has been added anyway, and you had some valid points and you seem to be dedicated to this board, one karma to you too :)

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2006, 01:57:22 AM »
Congratulation Crayon Violent!

You won the discussion the KARMA is now back.

And where is the button of Karma? I want to press it? he, he

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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2006, 01:59:02 AM »
You have to have X posts (whatever they set it as)

It will be under the user's name on the left side and will look like:
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Karma: +2/-0
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Re: what, no karma?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2006, 02:11:36 AM »
well actually... i have no idea why it was decided to re-instate it.  None of the admins came here to put their 2 cents in or anything.  The only mod to say anything was Koobi and (no offense) i don't think he knows anything, cuz he repeatedly mentioned it's up to the higher ups, etc.. I would assume that if there was some kind of discussion going on in the mod lounge he probably would have at least said something along the lines of "it is being discussed." 

LoL, for all I know someone could have just re-instated it cuz they were tired of hearing me whine about it so they did it to just shut me up  ;D   :-[

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